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Retrogamecoding(.org) => BrowserBasic => Topic started by: Guilect on June 28, 2013, 09:17:18 pm

Title: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 28, 2013, 09:17:18 pm
SteveOW suggested that BrowserBasic could use a logo.
So, since I can't draw a crooked line I am hoping that someone here could come up with a logo.
The winning design's author gets .... uhm... the winner gets... to know that their design was the winning one. :P
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Mopz on June 29, 2013, 07:49:52 am
Yes, of course, here's a breakfast-cereals-gay-style logo :)

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/breakfast_cereals_gay_basic.jpg)

I'm just messing with ya, since this basic of yours'll kick naalaa's ass on the web ;)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Mopz on June 29, 2013, 08:14:38 am
Hardcore-heavy-metal-basic?

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/metal.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Cybermonkey on June 29, 2013, 08:38:52 am
Yes, of course, here's a breakfast-cereals-gay-style logo :)

I'm just messing with ya, since this basic of yours'll kick naalaa's ass on the web ;)
Haha, (C) by the KELLOG company ...
BTW, Marcus, what programs do you use for image manipulation (aside from NaaLaa)?
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Mopz on June 29, 2013, 08:56:06 am
Or you can use naalaa and the image manipulation lib to generate a logo :)

Code: [Select]
import "ImageManipulation.lib"

constant:
LOGO_IMG    0
TEXTURE_IMG 1
hidden:

rem Create font.
create font 0, "arial", 72, true

rem Create texture with the midpoint displacement thingie.
proc MD_GenerateImage TEXTURE_IMG, 129, 1.0, 0.1, 3
proc Blur TEXTURE_IMG, 16, true

rem Create logo image.
create image LOGO_IMG, 416, 72

set image LOGO_IMG
set color 255, 255, 255
wln "BrowserBasic"
proc MakeColorTransparent LOGO_IMG, 0, 0, 0
proc PatternFill LOGO_IMG, TEXTURE_IMG
proc Bevel LOGO_IMG, 2, 2, 200
proc Multiply LOGO_IMG, 1.0, 1.0, 1.2
proc ChangeBrightness LOGO_IMG, 24
proc ChangeContrast LOGO_IMG, 1.2
proc DropShadow LOGO_IMG, 4, 2, 2, 0, 0, 0, 200



set image primary
set color 255, 255, 255
cls
draw image 0, 100, 100

wait keydown


rem ==================================================================
rem Generate image. contrast and smooth should both be in the
rem range [0..1].
rem ==================================================================
procedure MD_GenerateImage(img, size, contrast#, smooth#, seed)
a#[][] = MD_Generate(size, contrast, smooth, seed)
create image img, size, size
set image img
for y = 0 to size - 1
for x = 0 to size - 1
i = int(a[x][y]*255.0)
set color i, i, i
set pixel x, y
next
next
set image primary
endproc

rem ==================================================================
rem Generate array with elements in the range [0..1].
rem ==================================================================
function MD_Generate#[][](size, contrast#, smooth#, seed)
randomize seed
contrast = min#(contrast, 1.0)
contrast = max#(contrast, 0.0)
smooth = min#(smooth, 1.0)
smooth = max#(smooth, 0.0)
smooth = 1.0 - smooth
md#[size][size]
md[0][0] = 0.5 + contrast*float(rnd(100))*0.01 - contrast*0.5
md[size - 1][0] = 0.5 + contrast*float(rnd(100))*0.01 - contrast*0.5
md[size - 1][size - 1] = 0.5 + contrast*float(rnd(100))*0.01 - contrast*0.5
md[0][size - 1] = 0.5 + contrast*float(rnd(100))*0.01 - contrast*0.5
proc MD_Rec md, 0, 0, size - 1, size - 1, contrast, smooth
return md
endfunc

rem ==================================================================
rem Recursive step.
rem ==================================================================
procedure MD_Rec(&md#[][], xmin, ymin, xmax, ymax, contrast#, smooth#)
if xmax - xmin <= 1 then return
if ymax - ymin <= 1 then return
hw = (xmin + xmax)/2
hh = (ymin + ymax)/2
md[hw][hh] = (md[xmin][ymin] + md[xmax][ymin] + md[xmax][ymax] + md[xmin][ymax])*0.25 + contrast*float(rnd(100))*0.01 - contrast*0.5
md[hw][hh] = max#(md[hw][hh], 0.0)
md[hw][hh] = min#(md[hw][hh], 1.0)
md[xmin][hh] = (md[xmin][ymin] + md[xmin][ymax])*0.5
md[xmax][hh] = (md[xmax][ymin] + md[xmax][ymax])*0.5
md[hw][ymin] = (md[xmin][ymin] + md[xmax][ymin])*0.5
md[hw][ymax] = (md[xmin][ymax] + md[xmax][ymax])*0.5
proc MD_Rec md, xmin, ymin, hw, hh, contrast*smooth, smooth
proc MD_Rec md, hw, ymin, xmax, hh, contrast*smooth, smooth
proc MD_Rec md, xmin, hh, hw, ymax, contrast*smooth, smooth
proc MD_Rec md, hw, hh, xmax, ymax, contrast*smooth, smooth
endproc

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/naalaa_logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Mopz on June 29, 2013, 09:09:34 am
Yes, of course, here's a breakfast-cereals-gay-style logo :)

I'm just messing with ya, since this basic of yours'll kick naalaa's ass on the web ;)
Haha, (C) by the KELLOG company ...
BTW, Marcus, what programs do you use for image manipulation (aside from NaaLaa)?

I always use the GIMP. But I don't like the latest version.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: SteveOW on June 29, 2013, 10:56:38 am
When I google "BrowserBasic" it throws up a lot of chaff.
Maybe some kind of theme emphasising the initials "BB" "BeeBee" a pair of Bees? "BaaBaa"
A picture of Bridget Bardot might be going too far.
Depends who you are trying to attract I suppose. :)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Mopz on June 29, 2013, 11:56:24 am
Yeeaaah ...

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/evil_bee.jpg)

... sorry :) Too many beers.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: SteveOW on June 29, 2013, 12:43:01 pm
Enter [stage right] BROWSO !!!
the BrowserBasic.bee
</HTML> and {ja'script;}
have made him quite.angree
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 29, 2013, 12:49:29 pm
I like the heavy metal one by Mopz.
If it is ok with him I'll start with using that one.

Quote
Or you can use naalaa and the image manipulation lib to generate a logo
NaaLaa is quite powerful and versatile.

I did not take into account any search engine results when going with the name BrowserBasic.
But, in time, it will trickle through and infiltrate the internet.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 29, 2013, 03:09:50 pm
Logo:

(http://tomaaz.ct8.pl/6.png)

Smaller icon:

(http://tomaaz.ct8.pl/7.png)

Looks better on a white background. :)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 29, 2013, 03:30:47 pm
@Tomaaz
I like yours too.
I think i could use both yours and Mopz's.
Okay to do so?
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 29, 2013, 03:32:50 pm
Okay to do so?

Sure. That's why I made it. :)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Mopz on June 29, 2013, 05:43:54 pm
Here're some combinations (png this time):

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/combo1.png)

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/combo2.png)

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/combo3.png)

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/combo4.png)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: bolbo on June 29, 2013, 06:36:00 pm
What about the name "The Bro Basic" :)
I've just looked for other names like Brob in google image and and found these ones, the second one is nice because suggests a toy and portability, I think it is from an independent artisan.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KYmaewhFgl8/TvEZnod7c-I/AAAAAAAAA9M/ygSDrLZlhm8/s1600/RIMG0208.JPG)

(http://img2.etsystatic.com/000/0/5974438/il_fullxfull.191512718.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 29, 2013, 06:52:00 pm
Marcus, great work! :) My favorite is

(http://www.naalaa.com/temp/combo3.png)

but the rest of them can be used as well and may be even a better choice in some situations.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 29, 2013, 07:54:53 pm
@Mopz

I really like all of the combinations that you did.
I think, like Tomaaz said, different ones will work for different situations.
Now, i have no excuse, I'll have to go off and start putting them on a homepage for BrowserBasic.
Thanks.

@bolbo
Thanks for the input, not sure if Brob implies portability or that the item is a dinosaur.  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 29, 2013, 08:16:06 pm
A quick and early version of the homepage for BrowserBasic using the logos by Mopz and Tomaaz.
It will evolve over time.


BrowserBasic Homepage (http://www.pewtersoftware.com/browserbasic/index.html)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: bolbo on June 29, 2013, 08:41:05 pm
@bolbo
Thanks for the input, not sure if Brob implies portability or that the item is a dinosaur.  ;)

It means portable and powerful capabilities, not crippled and heavy ;D
You must admit this is "el cheapo", I just wanted to participate.

(http://s21.postimg.org/475c75jjr/brob.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 29, 2013, 11:40:16 pm
BrowserBasic Homepage (http://www.pewtersoftware.com/browserbasic/index.html)

Looks good already! :) All you need to do is change width (see an attachment) and add a content.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 30, 2013, 03:36:43 pm
@bolbo
The dinosaur logo might have a use ; I appreciate the effort.

@Tomaaz
Ya, thanks.
Now I just have to dust off the cobwebs on my HTML coding skills.
I am trying to remember if there is a tag to auto fit content to a browser page
or if that is done in script.  Thank goodness there is google search to help out.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 30, 2013, 03:41:58 pm
I am trying to remember if there is a tag to auto fit content to a browser page
or if that is done in script.

If you don't set width of your page in your code, the browser fits it be default. You can also use min-width (http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_dim_min-width.asp) attribute to set minimum width your website will be scaled to.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 30, 2013, 03:46:08 pm
I had a look at the source of your website and can see that you have width of many elements set to around 500px. Just remove it and the website will fit to the browser window.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 30, 2013, 03:50:11 pm
Quote
Just remove it and the website will fit to the browser window.
Ok.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 30, 2013, 04:16:45 pm
It looks like your website is generated by a software rather than coded by hand. In this case, you should adjust width of the website in the software you use.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on June 30, 2013, 10:10:14 pm
Hi Tomaaz,

I resized the page to 1024 wide.
I was trying to keep it smaller so that everything would fit on the screens of tablets and such.
Not too many people these days sit behind a big old PC to do their surfing.
But this will do for now.
When time permits I will make a separate tablet/mobile site.
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Tomaaz on June 30, 2013, 10:20:13 pm
Thanks for the help.

You're welcome. :) Last suggestion - I think the site would look better if you centered it. Just my opinion. ;)
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Cybermonkey on July 03, 2013, 02:56:26 pm
Yes, of course, here's a breakfast-cereals-gay-style logo :)

I'm just messing with ya, since this basic of yours'll kick naalaa's ass on the web ;)
Haha, (C) by the KELLOG company ...
BTW, Marcus, what programs do you use for image manipulation (aside from NaaLaa)?

I always use the GIMP. But I don't like the latest version.

Hey Marcus, are you using the G'MIC plugin? If not I can highly recommend it especially the artistic filters ...
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: cvirus on July 03, 2013, 06:44:42 pm
Hi Tomaaz,

I resized the page to 1024 wide.
I was trying to keep it smaller so that everything would fit on the screens of tablets and such.
Not too many people these days sit behind a big old PC to do their surfing.
But this will do for now.
When time permits I will make a separate tablet/mobile site.
Thanks for the help.

You don't need to code one separate, you can use a responsive framework like http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/ (http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/) or http://ink.sapo.pt/ (http://ink.sapo.pt/), there are many themes you can use and this way you don't have to do it twice.

Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on July 03, 2013, 10:29:07 pm
Hi cvirus,

Thanks for the links.  I will look at both of those.
I like not doing things twice. :)
Title: another browser basic
Post by: SteveOW on July 22, 2013, 11:06:02 pm
http://www.softpicks.net/software/Development/Web/Browser-Basic-52771.htm
name clash?
Title: Re: Looking for a logo for BrowserBasic
Post by: Guilect on July 22, 2013, 11:27:20 pm
That is Browser <space> Basic; this is BrowserBasic.   ;)
Besides that, the application seems to be long gone.
It was last updated 10 years ago.
I am happy with the name choice.
Thanks for the heads up.