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Title: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on May 30, 2018, 02:00:55 AM
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'Rubic 4.txt for Just Basic v2 B+ started 2018-05-27 revised again
' post 2018-05-29 edited 2-3 times swap faces at bootom cube view and spin bottom face
' from Rubic 3.txt

'now for my next trick, 3D

global xmax, ymax, pi, cmd$, record$, c6, s6
xmax = 606
ymax = 450
pi = acs(-1)
c6 = 30 * cos(pi/6)
s6 = 30 * sin(pi/6)
nomainwin
WindowWidth = xmax + 8
WindowHeight = ymax + 32
UpperLeftX = (1200 - xmax) / 2
UpperLeftY = (700 - ymax) / 2

open "Rubic 4, press h for help..." for graphics_nsb_nf as #gr
#gr "setfocus"
#gr "trapclose quit"
#gr "when leftButtonUp lButtonUp"
#gr "when characterInput charIn"
#gr "down"
#gr "fill 115 115 115"
#gr "size 3"
dim fx(5) : dim fy(5)
fx(0) = 120 : fy(0) = 180
fx(1) = 210 : fy(1) = 180
fx(2) = 300 : fy(2) = 180
fx(3) = 30  : fy(3) = 180
fx(4) = 120 : fy(4) = 90
fx(5) = 120 : fy(5) = 270

dim c(53) '54 colors for squares
dim l$(53) 'labels for squares = original index
dim spin(8)
dim spinl$(8)
for i = 0 to 53
    f = int(i / 9)
    select case f
    case 0 : c(i) = 40  ' front face is green
    case 1 : c(i) = 700 ' right face red
    case 2 : c(i) = 8   ' back face blue
    case 3 : c(i) = 940 ' left face orange
    case 4 : c(i) = 999 ' top face white (which is why the black background
    case 5 : c(i) = 990 ' bottom face yellow
    end select
    l$(i) = str$(i)
next
call update
#gr "flush"
wait

' ======================================  procedures this window

sub quit H$
    close #gr
    end
end sub

sub lButtonUp H$, mx, my
    call quit H$
end sub

sub charIn H$, c$
    'notice "*";c$;"*" 'debug 2nd character not found in INSTR, also 4th????
    'nstr$ = "1 2 3"  'there is some kind of bug such that the 2nd and 4th position in string is not found
    if c$ = "h" then call help
    if instr("xyz",c$) then cmd$ = c$
    if (c$ = "1" or c$ = "2" or c$ = "3") and cmd$ <> "" then
        call cwRotate c$
        cmd$ = ""
    end if
    if c$ = "s" then call solve
    if c$ = "q" then call quit H$
end sub

sub cwRotate level$
    select case cmd$
    case "x"
        select case level$
        case "1"
            call cs  0,  3,  6, 36, 39, 42, 26, 23, 20, 45, 48, 51
            call spinFace 3
        case "2"
            call cs  1,  4,  7, 37, 40, 43, 25, 22, 19, 46, 49, 52
        case "3"
            call cs  2,  5,  8, 38, 41, 44, 24, 21, 18, 47, 50, 53
            call spinFace 1
        end select
    case "y"
        select case level$
        case "1"
            call cs  0,  1,  2,  27, 28, 29,  18, 19, 20,   9, 10, 11
            call spinFace 4
        case "2"
            call cs  3,  4,  5,  30, 31, 32,  21, 22, 23,  12, 13, 14
        case "3"
            call cs 33, 34, 35,  24, 25, 26,  15, 16, 17,   6,  7,  8
            call spinFace 5
        end select
    case "z"
        select case level$
        case "1"
            call spinFace 0 'ok
            call cs 42, 43, 44, 9, 12, 15, 47, 46, 45, 35, 32, 29
        case "2"
            call cs 10, 13, 16, 50, 49, 48, 34, 31, 28, 39, 40, 41
        case "3"
            call cs 36, 37, 38, 11, 14, 17, 53, 52, 51, 33, 30, 27
            call spinFace 2
        end select
    end select
    record$ = record$ + cmd$;level$ + " "
    call update
end sub

' ======================================    JB Library of procedures

sub rgb n3
    s3$ = right$("000";str$(n3), 3)
    r = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 1, 1)) + 3
    g = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 2, 1)) + 3
    b = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 3, 1)) + 3
    #gr "color ";r;" ";g;" ";b
    #gr "backcolor ";r;" ";g;" ";b
end sub

sub frgb n3
    s3$ = right$("000";str$(n3), 3)
    r = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 1, 1)) + 3
    g = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 2, 1)) + 3
    b = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 3, 1)) + 3
    #gr "color ";r;" ";g;" ";b
end sub

sub brgb n3
    s3$ = right$("000";str$(n3), 3)
    r = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 1, 1)) + 3
    g = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 2, 1)) + 3
    b = 28 * val(mid$(s3$, 3, 1)) + 3
    #gr "backcolor ";r;" ";g;" ";b
end sub

sub label fColor, bColor, x, y, text$
    call frgb fColor
    call brgb bColor
    #gr "place ";x;" ";y;";\";text$
end sub

sub fbox x0, y0, x1, y1
    #gr "place ";x0;" ";y0
    #gr "boxfilled ";x1+1;" ";y1+1
end sub

sub pause mil   'tsh version has scan built-in
    t0 = time$("ms")
    while time$("ms") < t0 + mil : scan : wend
end sub

'===============================================    procedures this app

sub update
    for i = 0 to 53
        f = int(i/9)
        xoff = fx(f) : yoff = fy(f)
        row = int((i - f * 9)/3) : col = i mod 3
        call rgb c(i)
        fore = 999 - c(i) : bk = c(i)
        call fbox xoff + col * 30, yoff + row * 30, xoff + col * 30 + 30, yoff + row * 30 + 30
        call label fore, bk, xoff + col * 30 + 8, yoff + row * 30 + 20, right$("  ";l$(i), 2)
    next
    'draw grids
    call rgb 0
    for f = 0 to 5
        xoff = fx(f) : yoff = fy(f)
        for i = 0 TO 3
            #gr "line ";xoff + 30 * i;" ";yoff;" ";xoff + 30 * i;" ";yoff + 90
            #gr "line ";xoff;" ";yoff + 30 * i;" ";xoff + 90;" ";yoff + 30 * i
        next
    next

    '3D views
    #gr "size 1"
    for face = 0 to 5
        fi = face * 9
        select case face
        case 0 : fx = 420 : fy = 75
            for row = 0 to 2
            for col = 0 to 2
                x = fx + col * c6
                y = fy + row * 30 + 15 * col
                call rgb c(fi + row * 3 + col)
                call d1 x, y
            next
            next
        case 1 : fx = 498 : fy = 120
            for row = 0 to 2
            for col = 0 to 2
                x = fx + col * c6
                y = fy + row * 30 - 15 * col
                call rgb c(fi + row * 3 + col)
                call d2 x, y
            next
            next
        case 3 : fx = 498 : fy = 240  'back side is mirror of front view
            for row = 0 to 2
            for col = 0 to 2
                x = fx + col * c6
                y = fy + row * 30 + 15 * col
                call rgb c(fi + row * 3 + (col))
                call d1 x, y
            next
            next
        case 2 : fx = 420 : fy = 285
            for row = 0 to 2
            for col = 0 to 2
                x = fx + col * c6
                y = fy + row * 30 - 15 * col
                call rgb c(fi + row * 3 + (col))
                call d2 x, y
            next
            next
        case 4 : fx = 498 : fy = 30
            for row = 0 to 2
            for col = 0 to 2
                x = fx + col * 26 - row * 26
                y = fy + row * 15 + 15 * col
                call rgb c(fi + row * 3 + col)
                call d3 x, y
            next
            next
        case 5 : fx = 498 : fy = 330
            for row = 0 to 2
            for col = 0 to 2
                x = fx + col * 26 - row * 26
                y = fy + row * 15 + 15 * col
                'spin the face
                i = row * 3 + col
                select case i
                case 0 : j = 6
                case 1 : j = 3
                case 2 : j = 0
                case 3 : j = 7
                case 4 : j = 4
                case 5 : j = 1
                case 6 : j = 8
                case 7 : j = 5
                case 8 : j = 2
                end select
                call rgb c(fi + j)
                call d3 x, y
            next
            next
        end select
    next
    call label 999, 444, 426, 20, "Top Front Right View:"
    call label 999, 444, 425, 440, "Back Left Bottom View:"
end sub

sub d1 x, y
    for yo = 0 to 30
        #gr "line ";x;" ";y + yo;" ";x + c6;" ";y + yo + s6
    next
    #gr "size 4"
    #gr "color black"
    #gr "line ";x;" ";y;" ";x + c6;" ";y + s6
    #gr "line ";x;" ";y;" ";x;" ";y + 30
    #gr "line ";x + c6;" ";y + s6;" ";x + c6;" ";y + 30 + s6
    #gr "line ";x;" ";y + 30;" ";x + c6;" ";y + 30 + s6
end sub

sub d2 x, y
    for yo = 0 to 30
        #gr "line ";x;" ";y + yo;" ";x + c6;" ";y + yo - s6
    next
    #gr "size 4"
    #gr "color black"
    #gr "line ";x;" ";y;" ";x + c6;" ";y - s6
    #gr "line ";x;" ";y;" ";x;" ";y + 30
    #gr "line ";x + c6;" ";y - s6;" ";x + c6;" ";y + 30 - s6
    #gr "line ";x;" ";y + 30;" ";x + c6;" ";y + 30 - s6
end sub

sub d3 x, y
    yy = y + 15
    for xx = 0 to 26
        fx = 15 - 15/26 * xx
        #gr "line ";x + xx;" ";yy - fx;" ";x + xx;" ";yy + fx
        #gr "line ";x - xx;" ";yy - fx;" ";x - xx;" ";yy + fx
    next
    #gr "size 4"
    #gr "color black"
    #gr "place ";x;" ";y
    #gr "north"
    #gr "turn 120"
    #gr "go 30"
    #gr "turn 120"
    #gr "go 30"
    #gr "turn 60"
    #gr "go 30"
    #gr "turn 120"
    #gr "go 30"
end sub

'color shifter, these are all indexes to the c() array
sub cs k1, k2, k3, k4, k5, k6, k7, k8, k9, k10, k11, k12
    ks1 = c(k10) : ks2 = c(k11) : ks3 = c(k12) 'save first three
    ls1$ = l$(k10) : ls2$ = l$(k11) : ls3$ = l$(k12) 'save first three

    c(k10) = c(k7) : c(k11) = c(k8) : c(k12) = c(k9)
    l$(k10) = l$(k7) : l$(k11) = l$(k8) : l$(k12) = l$(k9)

    c(k7) = c(k4) : c(k8) = c(k5) : c(k9) = c(k6)
    l$(k7) = l$(k4) : l$(k8) = l$(k5) : l$(k9) = l$(k6)

    c(k4) = c(k1) : c(k5) = c(k2) : c(k6) = c(k3)
    l$(k4) = l$(k1) : l$(k5) = l$(k2) : l$(k6) = l$(k3)

    c(k1) = ks1 : c(k2) = ks2 : c(k3) = ks3
    l$(k1) = ls1$ : l$(k2) = ls2$ : l$(k3) = ls3$
end sub

sub spinFace face
    for i = 0 to 8 'save data
        row = int(i / 3) : col = i mod 3
        idx = face * 9 + 3 * row + col
        spin(i) = c(idx)
        spinl$(i) = l$(idx)
    next
    if face = 0 or face = 1 or face = 4 then
        for i = 0 to 8 'swap data
            row = int(i / 3) : col = i mod 3
            idx = face * 9 + 3 * row + col
            select case i
            case 0 : c(idx) = spin(6) : l$(idx) = spinl$(6)
            case 1 : c(idx) = spin(3) : l$(idx) = spinl$(3)
            case 2 : c(idx) = spin(0) : l$(idx) = spinl$(0)
            case 3 : c(idx) = spin(7) : l$(idx) = spinl$(7)
            case 5 : c(idx) = spin(1) : l$(idx) = spinl$(1)
            case 6 : c(idx) = spin(8) : l$(idx) = spinl$(8)
            case 7 : c(idx) = spin(5) : l$(idx) = spinl$(5)
            case 8 : c(idx) = spin(2) : l$(idx) = spinl$(2)
            end select
        next
    else 'reverse
            for i = 0 to 8 'swap data
            row = int(i / 3) : col = i mod 3
            idx = face * 9 + 3 * row + col
            select case i
            case 0 : c(idx) = spin(2) : l$(idx) = spinl$(2)
            case 1 : c(idx) = spin(5) : l$(idx) = spinl$(5)
            case 2 : c(idx) = spin(8) : l$(idx) = spinl$(8)
            case 3 : c(idx) = spin(1) : l$(idx) = spinl$(1)
            case 5 : c(idx) = spin(7) : l$(idx) = spinl$(7)
            case 6 : c(idx) = spin(0) : l$(idx) = spinl$(0)
            case 7 : c(idx) = spin(3) : l$(idx) = spinl$(3)
            case 8 : c(idx) = spin(6) : l$(idx) = spinl$(6)
            end select
        next
    end if
end sub

sub solve
    i = 1 'cnt moves
    while word$(record$, i) <> ""
        scan
        cnt = cnt + 1
        i = i + 1
    wend
    for i = cnt to 1 step -1
        scan
        cmd$ = left$(word$(record$, i), 1)
        lv$ = right$(word$(record$, i), 1)
        for j = 1 to 3
            scan
            call cwRotate lv$
            call pause 100
        next
    next
    cmd$ = ""
    record$ = ""
end sub

sub help
    nl$ = Chr$(13)
    s$ =      "****************** Rubic Help *******************" + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "Let's call the 9 small cubes that make up 1/3" + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "of the entire cube a 'layer'.  Now, we need a" +nl$
    s$ = s$ + "shorthand method to specify which layer to rotate." + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "The x axis is layered left to right 1, 2, 3." + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "The y axis is layered top down 1, 2, 3." + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "The z axis is layered front to back 1, 2, 3." + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "So, to command a rotation:"+ nl$
    s$ = s$ + "Key press the axis and then the layer number." + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "Can also press h for this help, or q to quit." + nl$ + nl$
    s$ = s$ + "SOLVE!, press s to solve the cube."
    notice s$
end sub

Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on May 30, 2018, 09:20:20 PM
If anyone attempts a direct translation from JB to their favorite flavor, here is the game plan I used for Rotations (which could be worked on a bit more), all a 90 degree turn clockwise but the x axis is from right hand side looking at the front (green) face...

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Rubix Color Index Layout:

           : 26 25 24 :
           : 23 22 21 :  >>>> I had back of cube lined up wrong to this:
           : 20 19 18 :
                                      V
                                      V
           : 36 37 38 :               V
           : 39 40 41 :               V
           : 42 43 44 :
: 27 28 29 :  0  1  2 :  9 10 11 : 18 19 20 :
: 30 31 32 :  3  4  5 : 12 13 14 : 21 22 23 :
: 33 34 35 :  6  7  8 : 15 16 17 : 24 25 26 :
           : 45 46 47 :
           : 48 49 50 :
           : 51 52 53 :


ROTATIONS WERE BASED ON LOOKING AT THE FRONT GREEN FACE OF CUBE:

The x axis was left to right 1, 2, 3 right hand side clockwise when looking at front face.

The y axis was top to bottom 1, 2, 3 right hand above cube front face turning clockwise,

The z axis was front to back 1, 2, 3 turning clockwise while facing front of cube.


         

and of course, I will answer questions about JB commands used here.

EDIT: oops I did change the the y axis rotation to top of cube clock-wise.

Rotations were commanded by axis letter (x, y, or z) and then layer (1, 2, 3).
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on May 31, 2018, 02:52:35 AM
Here is the image I based my code on:
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 02, 2018, 06:00:57 AM
I have forked this challenge to the AllBASIC.info (http://www.allbasic.info/forum/index.php?topic=475.0) forum for a better set of forum tools than offered here.

Please return to your favorite program(ming).
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 04, 2018, 04:10:33 PM
Perhaps if you show them how easy it is to do in Just Basic (the BASIC for Beginners).
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 04, 2018, 10:09:34 PM
I don't understand the reference to wings.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 04, 2018, 11:28:24 PM
RobbeK was a brilliant mathematician and graphics guru. He died a few years ago and we miss him a lot on the O2 forum.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 05, 2018, 08:01:51 AM
Quote
Perhaps if you show them how easy it is to do in Just Basic (the BASIC for Beginners).

Who said this thread was closed?
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 05, 2018, 06:12:59 PM
Quote
Perhaps if you show them how easy it is to do in Just Basic (the BASIC for Beginners).

Who said this thread was closed?

?  :o

The comment I made that you quoted was in reference to the snap I took from ALLBASIC and attached to same reply.

You, John, seemed to be trying to motivate others to take up the Rubic's coding challenge at your forum and I wanted to help you in your motivation by suggesting you suggest there how easy it was to do in an easy to learn BASIC. I mean WTH? even bplus can do it!
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 05, 2018, 09:11:34 PM
You are welcome to join the AllBASIC.info forum and contribute as you see fit.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 06, 2018, 02:17:05 PM
RobbeK was a brilliant mathematician and graphics guru. He died a few years ago and we miss him a lot on the O2 forum.


That's very sad but I must ask - I still don't understand what the reference to wings is?
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 06, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
He might have been promoted to Angel.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Bingo.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 06, 2018, 10:25:43 PM
Ah, I assume he must have been a christian then? I don't know much about that religion, so apologies for my ignorance. There was an old church in the village I grew up in, but nobody went in there and since moving away I've not really met anyone that still does.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 06, 2018, 11:18:48 PM
Perhaps because I've had more exposure to Christianity, in my book, an angel is a person whose excellent personality, their spirit so to speak, their legacy maybe, in a positive way, survives their mortal existence in minds and hearts of survivors. It's a figurative expression not to be taken literally.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 06, 2018, 11:46:21 PM
Yeah, I kinda assumed that it wasn't to be taken literally; having spent an instructive hour or so on wikipedia, it seems that things like angels are after all just mythological creatures, and even if they were actual things it'd be hard to imagine that everyone who's well-liked gets to be one :)

But it is always a shame when someone dies. Most of the time they're missed by somebody, regardless of what their character was like when alive. My condolences.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 07, 2018, 05:43:34 AM
I'm not a believer in god / angel's or that clouds store more than water. The plea was a symbolic jestuure.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: Mike Lobanovsky on June 07, 2018, 07:22:58 AM
Ah, I assume he must have been a christian then? I don't know much about that religion, so apologies for my ignorance. There was an old church in the village I grew up in, but nobody went in there...

Oh, I must confess that's one of the most unexpected revelations I've ever heard in my entire life. The villagers, did they still believe in Thor and Odin or was the village someplace on the other side of the globe?

Don't take this as a personal lunge. I'm just curious.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 07, 2018, 11:09:23 AM
Ah, I assume he must have been a christian then? I don't know much about that religion, so apologies for my ignorance. There was an old church in the village I grew up in, but nobody went in there...

Oh, I must confess that's one of the most unexpected revelations I've ever heard in my entire life. The villagers, did they still believe in Thor and Odin or was the village someplace on the other side of the globe?

Don't take this as a personal lunge. I'm just curious.

:D

No, it's just that religion tends to be centred more in the towns and cities while the rural areas lose interest as the older generations die off with no believers left to replace them. The churches tend to only get unlocked for weddings and funerals now, regular sunday service is a thing of the past. When I was young (1970s) there were people going occasionally, but that tailed off as I got older and eventually the church was abandoned.

I suppose that unless there's money to maintain things, people don't really need a religion now - at least, not around where I grew up :)
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: Rick3137 on June 07, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
 May you all be promoted to Angel.

   ( Literally )
 
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 07, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
Ah, I assume he must have been a christian then? I don't know much about that religion, so apologies for my ignorance. There was an old church in the village I grew up in, but nobody went in there...

Oh, I must confess that's one of the most unexpected revelations I've ever heard in my entire life. The villagers, did they still believe in Thor and Odin or was the village someplace on the other side of the globe?

Don't take this as a personal lunge. I'm just curious.

I confess the same reaction, certainly unexpected from a man named Paul.


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May you all be promoted to Angel.

   ( Literally )

This is how a Christian might curse you, by offering such a lovely sentiment, but God knows I don't want to be promoted to Angel too soon literally! ;D

Hi Rick,

I am glad you are still around for your offerings.

I just noticed the WWJD, looked it up, oh say! there's a movie now and bracelets what would Jesus do about all this commercial enterprise stuff? I mean we know what he did in the temple to get arrested...
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: Rick3137 on June 07, 2018, 03:43:49 PM
  Hello Mark ;
 
 I think if Jesus was here today, doing his Temple thing, he would first start with most TV preachers, and then go from there to lying congressmen who claim to be his. The swamp in Washington would be next.

 
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 07, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
I confess the same reaction, certainly unexpected from a man named Paul.

Hehe :)

I have a friend called Arthur and I'm fairly certain his parents weren't thinking of Pre-Roman warrior kings :)
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: Richly on June 07, 2018, 09:44:18 PM
But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good, traitorous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. Turn away from such as these!

2 Timothy 3

I percieve the world is becoming more and more like this...maybe just my perception.

If only we followed or try to follow what Jesus taught, even if you are not religious, then the world would be a better place.

Anyway, back on topic...




Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 07, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
Indeed, Richey. I only recently learned that Jesus died on the cross so we could wear mixed fabrics again.

And actually I'm not joking.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ScriptBasic on June 08, 2018, 12:29:37 AM
I have found that it's best not to discuss politics, religion or spousal relationships on a programming forum. It divides folks that once had a common interest.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 08, 2018, 01:07:42 AM
"Anyway, back on topic..."

Ha! But S'OK! I've done my bragging about getting Rubic's model working, so go ahead and try and remove wings from Angles...
  ;)


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Indeed, Richey. I only recently learned that Jesus died on the cross so we could wear mixed fabrics again.

And actually I'm not joking.

What? ! ? !  This is getting crazy interesting!


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I have found that it's best not to discuss politics, religion or spousal relationships on a programming forum. It divides folks that once had a common interest.

Probably very sensible... but that's no fun.

Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: Richly on June 08, 2018, 05:07:54 AM
I have found that it's best not to discuss politics, religion or spousal relationships on a programming forum. It divides folks that once had a common interest.

Indeed, although we do have the offtopic board for some of that  :)
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: ZXDunny on June 08, 2018, 10:40:24 AM
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Indeed, Richey. I only recently learned that Jesus died on the cross so we could wear mixed fabrics again.

And actually I'm not joking.

What? ! ? !  This is getting crazy interesting!

Indeed. Look up the "new covenant" from the new testament. It basically replaces all of the old laws proscribed in Leviticus so we can wear things that mix fabrics, plant crops how we like, don't have to sacrifice animals or children and gay folks don't have to be stoned to death anymore. And it's all thanks to jewish chap from the 1st century.

So when someone says (as many have) that being gay is against the teachings of the bible, they're wrong as Jesus never really said anything about it and he's pretty much the last word on what's OK and what's not, as long as you believe in the new testament, of course.

But yes, way off topic now.
Title: Re: JB Rubic's Cube with Solver
Post by: B+ on June 08, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
Ha, I just noticed my spelling of Angel. I suppose angles might have 2 wings too. ;)


Hi D,

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Jesus died on the cross so we could wear mixed fabrics again

A very misleading "headliner", typical of this day and age. I did suspect the explanation to be much like what you have followed up with. I never thought about it before with the use of the term "revolutionary" but Jesus probably was an early model except now days its more focused on political and violent upheaval. The movie, Frida, is still fresh in mind from last night, so in those days and places in the world if not these days. Nope, I think he was about something more important than political power and most certainly about something more than the freedom to wear mixed fabrics.

I think it very good to wonder what that might be, but don't try to pin it down to anything so specific.

Nothing was written down about Jesus (until very long after the crucification, generations had passed), or if there was, it was lost with Jewish rebellion and last stand at Masada before the Diaspora or lost in the many fires of the library at Alexandria.
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The library may in truth have suffered several fires over many years. In addition to fires, at least one earthquake damaged the city and the library during this time. [1] Possible occasions for the partial or complete destruction of the Library of Alexandria include a fire set by the army of Julius Caesar in 48 BC and an attack by Aurelian in the 270s AD.

After the main library was destroyed, scholars used a "daughter library" in a temple known as the Serapeum of Alexandria, located in another part of the city. According to Socrates of Constantinople, Coptic Pope Theophilus destroyed the Serapeum in AD 391, although it is not certain what it contained or if it contained any significant fraction of the documents that were in the main library.

Did you know that over one-half the New Testament are Paul's letters? A guy who started out chasing down Christians to arrest or answer to Jewish authorities, probably never knew Jesus before the crucifiction. Here is a guy who I think started to seriously wonder what Jesus was about. It is probably thanks to this guy (and his imaginings) that we are talking on this subject today!

So to my thinking Jesus is a sort of Rorschach test becoming that which you believe he should be like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test

Is it not our imagination that makes us most like gods? angels or demons. It certainly contributes to our personal heavens or hells.