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B+

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Internet Searching
« on: August 20, 2018, 04:37:26 PM »
I am wondering if it is possible to do an Internet search NOT based on popularity AND where redundant links are NOT added to a list burying still further the obscure item(s) you are looking for eg BASIC forum sites that are NOT MS Small Basic's or MS VB.


ScriptBasic

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 06:23:48 PM »
Is that BASIC site still online that reviewed BASIC languages that were still active? I can't remember the URL but I think the guy hosting it was named Henry.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2018, 07:30:57 PM by John »

Richly

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 11:10:46 PM »


B+

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2018, 01:02:30 AM »
That's better!  Thanks Richey and Rick.

ScriptBasic

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2018, 01:41:02 AM »

Aurel

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2018, 07:04:10 PM »
And here is my list with freakin comments  ;D

Unfortunately many of them are dead or abandoned
LIST of BASICS from mindteq...note that
labnguages under leter A not exists ????
-)including my own crappy basic(-


BACON - alive,linux only but nice!
BLOC - ?
BXB - nice experiment
BRUTUS2D - unknown?
COOLBASIC - dead
DLIB - dead
DIALECT - dead
DOYLESOFT - failed experiment
DX CREATOR - dead
EMERGENCE BASIC - new IWB is not popular
ENVELOP - true OLD experiment - today useless
ETHOS BASIC
EUPHORIA - is not BASIC-like and as such never popular for BASIC-ers
EXTREME BASIC - failed experiment
FBA CREATOR - abandoned
FBSL - never popular as it should be
FNX BASIC - still just nice experiment
FORCE BASIC - failed experiment
FREE BASIC -
GAMBAS - linux only
GAMES BASIC - dead
GFA BASIC - nice but never popular to much
GL BASIC - is alive - but look into forum
GNU LIBERTY - experiment
GUI4CLI - dead
HBASIC - linux only- status unknown
HOLLYWOOD - alive
HOT BASIC - alive - forum dead?
HSP - i don't like hot soup but haiii-is alive
HTBASIC - dead
IBASIC - dead
JABACO - java?
JUST BASIC - alive and popular inside LGBTK population!
KBASIC - basic for QT -alive
KOOL BASIC - experiment
LEMICK - dead
LIBERTY BASIC - same as JUST BASIC but for larger kids
LITHIUM - dead
MARATHI - dead
MEDIA BASIC - dead
MINIBASIC - dead
NAALAA - alive
NSBASIC - alive not basic
O'BASIC -dead
OMNI BASIC - dead
OXYGEN BASIC - alive
PALADIUM - dead
PANORAMIC - alive
PHOENIX - unkwown?
PHROGRAM - dead
PLAY BASIC - alive
PROVIDEX - ?
PURE BASIC - alive
QB64 - alive, but development stoped.
QuickerB - alive
QuickForward - dead
RAPID BATCH - abandoned
RAPIDQ - dead
REAL BASIC - alive?
SCRIPT BASIC - alive?
SECCIA - alive?
SHEERPOWER - not used,?
SMALLBASIC - alive?
MS SMALL BASIC - alive
SPEED BASIC - dead
THIN BASIC - alive and thin!
THISTLE - failed experiment
VISIA - failed experiment
VISUAL PULSAR  - abandoned
VISUAL WINDOWS -dead experiment
MS VISUAL BASIC - alive
WMBASIC - dead
WXBASIC - dead
XBASIC - alive
XBLITE - alive ?
XPB - dead
XPROFAN - ?
XST BASIC - dead
YABASIC - dead ?








« Last Edit: August 21, 2018, 07:06:24 PM by Aurel »

ScriptBasic

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 07:28:53 PM »
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SCRIPT BASIC - alive?

Peter Verhas is younger than me and wrote the BASIC. I'm just maintenance and a happy user.

Here is one of the commercial users of Script BASIC.

Script BASIC Users Guide  Keep in mind SB has been modified to support a BACNet environment and new keywords were added to the language for their version. It still is a good reference manual for SB in general.

PROVIDEX - ? - Is owned by Sage but only uses it with their 100 ERP product line. Sage gave it back to the original author (Mike King) to support existing customers outside of Sage. Now called PVXPlus.

« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 12:09:09 AM by John »

Richly

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 05:17:28 PM »
Quite a few 'live' BASICs missing from that list - Specbas, BBC BASIC (various implementations, including Brandy / Brandy forks), Decimal BASIC, True BASIC, BASIC 256, Quite BASIC, Chipmunk BASIC, Boriel ZX BASIC  and probably a few others. You could even include traditional BASICs like Sinclair BASIC - still lots of users.

Looks like the site hasn't been updated since 2015.

I see Clipper BASIC isn't there either  ;D

B+

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2018, 06:00:21 PM »
Quite a few 'live' BASICs missing from that list - Specbas, BBC BASIC (various implementations, including Brandy / Brandy forks), Decimal BASIC, True BASIC, BASIC 256, Quite BASIC, Chipmunk BASIC, Boriel ZX BASIC  and probably a few others. You could even include traditional BASICs like Sinclair BASIC - still lots of users.

Looks like the site hasn't been updated since 2015.

I see Clipper BASIC isn't there either  ;D

I wonder if we could pick up where mindteq left off? It might be a great community effort and generate more interest in this forum. Then again, it could become a self promotion nightmare.

What is Aurel's definition of dead? or alive? and did his list come from mindteq?


Tomaaz

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2018, 09:09:08 PM »
EUPHORIA - is not BASIC-like and as such never popular for BASIC-ers

It is BASIC-like and it's very nice. Good standard library (lack of easy to use internet functions is disappointed, though), translates to C, fantastic GUI toolkit (EuGTK), but, unfortunately, seems to be dead. Last stable version is from 2012, last beta from 2015 and there are no signs of any serious development activity. Phix, which is influenced by Euphoria, is still alive, but it has serious problems with running on rolling release distros.

YABASIC - dead ?

Last version has been released in May... this year. Also, Yabasic is back in Ubuntu repositories. Definitely not dead.


Richly

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2018, 10:52:08 PM »
Quite a few 'live' BASICs missing from that list - Specbas, BBC BASIC (various implementations, including Brandy / Brandy forks), Decimal BASIC, True BASIC, BASIC 256, Quite BASIC, Chipmunk BASIC, Boriel ZX BASIC  and probably a few others. You could even include traditional BASICs like Sinclair BASIC - still lots of users.

Looks like the site hasn't been updated since 2015.

I see Clipper BASIC isn't there either  ;D

I wonder if we could pick up where mindteq left off? It might be a great community effort and generate more interest in this forum. Then again, it could become a self promotion nightmare.

What is Aurel's definition of dead? or alive? and did his list come from mindteq?

Yes, what did you have in mind?

Btw I think it's possible to register at Mindteq  as an editor; that's if Henry is still active...

Richly

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2018, 10:55:19 PM »
EUPHORIA - is not BASIC-like and as such never popular for BASIC-ers

It is BASIC-like and it's very nice. Good standard library (lack of easy to use internet functions is disappointed, though), translates to C, fantastic GUI toolkit (EuGTK), but, unfortunately, seems to be dead. Last stable version is from 2012, last beta from 2015 and there are no signs of any serious development activity. Phix, which is influenced by Euphoria, is still alive, but it has serious problems with running on rolling release distros.

YABASIC - dead ?

Last version has been released in May... this year. Also, Yabasic is back in Ubuntu repositories. Definitely not dead.

Yes, not to be confused with Yabasic 3, which is dead...wonder what happened to Thomas Larsen and his interest in BASIC?

B+

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2018, 11:28:25 PM »
What did I have in mind?

A List - brief synopsis of features, plus and minus... best written by someone supporting project to put it in best light, also would be proof of aliveness, someone speaking up for it!

A decent definition of alive or dead, ie proof of aliveness by naming active developer and/or support forum, updates.
Links! dead or alive

If dead, then present a death certificate ;-)

What is dead if people still use it or remember it fondly or are inspired by it.

A forum that has a Home page untouched for 3 years (mindteq) is certainly not active but not dead either because it's links to information still useful. How is Henry?

Perhaps instead of saying alive or dead, say date of last activity.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2018, 11:31:16 PM by B+ »

johnno56

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Re: Internet Searching
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2018, 01:33:14 AM »
Schrödinger's cat?